08-04-2023, 04:51 AM
Montalk
@HiddenDimensionI I think the shift is either inevitable or planned, even if only culturally via the things we focus on and direct our society toward.
The reason it has to happen sooner rather than later is:
1 - Global cataclysms that could wipe out too much precious human 'crop' (from the alien perspective) and destabilize the farm, unless something is done about that like totalitarian lockdowns and advanced technology to aid survival.
2 - Negative aliens are itching to get this takeover / hybrid infiltration / transition going. Timing is everything and they need to capitalize on social, geopolitical, and economic chaos to leverage their manipulation. Since the latter is heading to its singularity, seems they're getting ready to pull the trigger.
3 - Since they are making the first moves, that opens the door to black ops and positive ETs to also come out into the open. All of these have been covert up to now because there was a status quo to protect. But if the status quo falls apart, what is left to wreck by coming out? If nothing, then they're coming out.
3 - People are indeed increasingly waking up. Goes back to catalysts like 9/11, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, David Icke, Trump, Covid, all the Biden / PC / Queer / BLM nonsense on display, and other cultural influences.
I see too many singularities converging at the same time, leading to a breakdown/transformation of the old order. Since we know from UFOlogy that aliens are already "involved" so much in our affairs and are veritable control freaks, think of how much control they'll be exerting when things get chaotic. They (and black ops / breakaway civilization) will be the primary shapers of what happens after the singularities unglue the status quo. That's because they have the power, technology, foresight, and willpower to shape the future while the general population lacks cohesion, coherence, motivation and are followers.
So our future is on a collision course with their future, and it therefore needs softening up and preparation for this reality shock. Both the positive and negative factions would want this. Negative want a disinformative disclosure to mentally/culturally steer humanity into their kill zone. Positives would want fuller truer disclosure to pre-empt them. But we'll see.
You're right that current Disclosure efforts are not touching abductions. Negative groups wouldn't want to taint their image, and positive groups know that convincing the public with an incremental drip feed is important to make it a smoother transition.
The abduction thing leads to various implications and requirements that aren't in place yet... When/if abductions get confirmed, paranoia will grow about who's an alien agent, how much trust we can have in our leaders, whether we should round up abductees as national security threats in case they're manchurian candidates or knowing agents, etc. and that's too far ahead in the plot.
For now it looks like they're getting credibility established, centralized reporting system for military and commercial pilots focusing on sensor data and expert witness descriptions, interrogating the hostile witnesses behind the coverup, and basically just establishing the presence and general nature of alien technologies. Pretty basic things but they're up against apathy and institutional inertia. But considering how much everything has been accelerating the past few years, it may keep accelerating and so by 2030 let's see where things are.
Montalk
@BrujaBuena @HiddenDimension Yes it's like "all the world's a stage" and they can go behind the curtain, manipulate the set, and whisper lines into our ears to manipulate the plot. They have access to a degree of freedom (movement to/from another realm) that we, as incarnated humans, cannot easily access. I think the show Westworld is the closest metaphor to that, followed by the movie Dark City.
Space Cadet
@montalk @BrujaBuena @HiddenDimension With 4D Oriented Reality being promoted and, eventually, the media referring to ETs as Interdimensionals, I wonder if that would mean disclosure will come in 2 waves (and other sub saves along the spectrum/gray areas) - meaning, deception will be an ongoing option, but those who dig deeper will discover a form of disclosure closer to the truth. The dark and light paths being choices at the convergence point I suppose. A Holographic/dreamworld/game reality becoming more widespread in public awareness could pull people into a global “interactive reality creation” sort of “known” simulation, where more people will become aware of how their mind/actions truly shape reality and this becomes the new “oasis”/ready-player-one type game trend, but the key being WHICH VERSION of disclosure does one choose within the game, the ones choosing the deception are then used, literally, like programmable avatars, and the ETs are the monsters (negs) and heroic “Gods” (Nordics). Abductees and hybrids could be “super heroes.” I guess that would be the world stage.
Montalk
@FrozenDecoded @BrujaBuena @HiddenDimension The Disclosure/Deception process is already underway in incremental stages, and yes there seem to be different ET / human agendas contributing to it, whether it's time travelers from different futures, or opposing ET factions, or different secret societies or government factions. So that means we're getting multiple conflicting influences, and the intensity of these will ramp up over time. For all I know, it could escalate into an all-out futuristic brawl with battles in the sky and key human proxies being evacuated as the sun goes nuts and comets are about to pelt the Earth, everything but the credits rolling.
Montalk 7-30-23
Deep State and Hostile ETs, partners in crime. You can't have full Disclosure of one without the other. You can't take down one without the other. Both are in the early stages of coming to light. Wait and see.
This Venn diagram should ideally be enclosed in a bigger circle labeled "Demons / Archons / 8th Sphere" as everything physical is ultimately a projection or consequence of the metaphysical. This isn't fundamentally a geopolitical / alien / time war, but a cosmic spiritual war.
https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/widt...98c281.png
Carissa Conti
@montalk This ties into the big "MILABs vs. Aliens?" debate that's been going on for decades. (And MILABs ties into deep state Cabal/Black Ops, etc. activities for those who may be unfamiliar.) It's something I addressed straight away at the beginning of Part I of "Chasing Phantoms," because both sides are being accused of doing the exact same things, therefore creating a lot of confusion in abduction lore. Many proponents of MILABs don't believe there's an alien component at all, that it's just costume trickery/mind control/hypnotic suggestions being implemented by human abductors/programmers to create screen memory covers in order to protect their own identity and agendas. There's evidence in abduction lore for not only that, but also "gray alien robotics" in underground bases which are neither alien, nor interdimensionals. Just good ol' "robotic worker drones." Meanwhile I have met an alien abductee who at that point was the only person I'd come across who believed it was all strictly aliens, and that there is no MILABs, because her experiences seemed to be purely alien and hybrid in nature. So I've heard from both sides of the argument. Each argument is understandable when again...each side only sees evidence for their specific abductors, and when the victims and researchers are reporting that both groups are doing the exact same things. Makes it a mess to untangle. Especially for victims who are trying to sort out who's really who and what's really what with their memory fragments and experiences.
I myself do believe though that there's both happening. True MILABs, and true "alien"/interdimensional/non human entities, whatever they actually are. Most of these groups are probably working separately, not in cahoots, with a multitude of agendas, but I do believe that some have joined forces at some point in recent history, creating that overlap, since that's what abduction victims, whistleblowers and researchers have revealed time and again. And it's why at this point you kind of can't have one without the other.
Space Cadet
@Carissa_Conti @montalk “I myself do believe though that there's both happening. True MILABs, and true "alien"/interdimensional/non human entities”
The overlap section of the diagram covers both groups here as well. The confusion helps big influencers control and shape the narrative, so they and the overseeing ETs can get the most use out of the human livestock. I could see MILAB and ET narratives being used/favored at different times and in different scenarios to “fit” whatever outcome is desired.
“Makes it a mess to untangle. Especially for victims who are trying to sort out who's really who and what's really what with their memory fragments and experiences.”
More confusion and chaos adds to that ideal environment for more walls to close in on the human farm (lock downs, genocide by medicine, media control etc.) . For those waking up to their involvement with abductions, the conflicting narratives would cause disharmony in, both, support for victims, and also, credibility for those who share/go public with their stories, a split in opinions/beliefs causing more mayhem. As for abductees, I hope there are enough positive/truth influencers and a “rise up” movement takes storm, so they can use their experiences to guide and shape humanity’s 4D future. Being aware of the madness is a difficult life to begin with, so the odds being against awake abductees would be a disservice to humanity but also just sucks for those who have suffered. Hopefully, there will be vindication and justice.
Carissa Conti
@FrozenDecoded
"The overlap section of the diagram covers both groups here as well."
I know....that was the point of my comment. :D Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, I don't know.....
Space Cadet
@Carissa_Conti Nah, you got it. I’m validating that part. Both sides hit every single point, so it’s really the same phenomenon but two wings of the same bird in a way. Now, we’ll see if and when enough truth and actual exposure of what REALLY is happening comes to the light and if it’s enough to shift things upward. It’s pretty sad how little most people know though…
HiddenDimension
@montalk Negative alien take over reminds me of how humans aren't powerless, but have been programmed away from some key innate strengths and ability. I think one way is making small decisions out of courage, basically keeping your word, being on time, cultivating trust in your self, then that builds confidence and self esteem, then your frequency shifts toward the positive, building a stronger auric field. That method builds on itself and you fortify the mind body spirit realm through that practice. Then as Carissa wrote about in Chasing Phantoms, you're off their radar.
How much damage must occur before positive entities step in? Not unlike in MMA matches where the fighter gets knocked to the ground, but then the opponent jumps on them and is repeatedly beating their face, and the ref is watching. . . deciding, ok is that enough, wait, are they still coherent? nope they're done, its over and steps in to call the match.
Black ops humans have betrayed society on so many levels. The CEO of Skunkworks was quoted years ago saying they would rather die than release their technology out to society. Not even some of it for cleaner energy?
To work with aliens for decades or who knows how long, and remember these are beings known to be advanced many centuries ahead of humans, and then its assumed their human whistleblowers are legit?
Regarding 2030, the religious community have examined that date through biblical scripture, worth looking at, I think.
Michael Tsarion, in a presentation back in 2005 or so, said that humans are trapped on this planet with savage beings that were chased here from another galaxy and crashed, destroying their tech. A genetic fence was then put in place to trap them here. (Van Allan belts?)
Most know the story of what then happens to the hominids here regarding DNA upgrades. As centuries went by, when these beings reassembled their technology they started to blast the DNA fence with atmospheric nuclear and hydrogen detonations. Tsarion said if they can't escape then they will lord over all with impunity.
Not sure about that hypothesis. I've seen craft come and go, near big airports. Could be hyperdimensional alien craft.
Carissa Conti
@HiddenDimension @montalk
"As centuries went by, when these beings reassembled their technology they started to blast the DNA fence with atmospheric nuclear and hydrogen detonations."
That's funny. I wonder where he got this story from. Meanwhile Flat Earthers have their version of it, which is that humans started to blast the "firmament fence" with atmospheric nuclear and hydrogen detonations to see if they could blow their way through it, to get off the supposed disk. Same story, different reason/bad guy inserted in.
One thing Tsarion said that I don't doubt is that humans are trapped on this planet. The everyday human that is. It seems elite black ops humans have the ability to travel a little more freely, and have probably been to moon bases and to Mars and such. But when everyday humans believe what Hollywood tells them, that we all can someday collectively achieve interstellar travel! and colonize other planets! and that maybe their descendants will get to be involved in that! It's just...... Never gonna happen. We are not welcome nor allowed out there. It's probably a little more complicated than what Tsarion is outlining, more to it than just Reptilians/Grays/Mantids/whatever else being quarantined here, which then by default extends to the human inhabitants. But the gist is the same. Humans collectively speaking will never be allowed off this planet to go tromp around the solar system or galaxy, acting like we own the joint. We don't own jack. We are the ones who are owned. 99% of people on this planet don't understand this. O.o
HiddenDimension
@Carissa_Conti @montalk Michael Tsarion, as with David Icke was mentored by Jordan Maxwell. This is according to a rant Jordan went on complaining about their success and not much attribution for him. I was told that Jordan was a Scottish Rite Freemason. A lodge member in San Diego told me this randomly in conversation that Jordan is on their list of members. Could this be a potential source of this DNA fence story? Hmm, certainly something to think about when you watch the Trinity movie narrated by William Shatner.
Carissa Conti
@HiddenDimension @montalk Jordan was a Freemason, second degree. This was told to Tom and I years ago by a guy named Jeff who used to work directly for/with Jordan for several years back in the mid-2000s. We met Jeff in person, and he stayed in our apartment in our spare room while visiting. Jeff told us that Jordan was second degree, and that Jordan had said never go beyond that level, otherwise they own you basically. It's like selling your soul. There's no going back. He told Jeff that if you join up and go as far as second it can open some doors for you in life, which is why Jordan supposedly joined. I don't think Jeff ever did though. Think I mentioned this to you before though a few months ago here on Gab. But my philosophy? Never be any degree. ;) Just a personal preference but, I don't need any of the doors that freemasonry, and the female equivalent, would open. !! All the degrees are Satanic IMO, I don't care what people say. The whole thing is bad news. I don't understand the reasoning of people like Jordan who only saw A) how it benefits them personally in the material world, while B) thinking that because they "only" went as far as second it somehow makes them okay. Not realizing - or willfully ignoring - what the higher degrees are getting up to. (very nasty, evil stuff.) Compartmentalizing one's involvement in the lowest levels and not realizing - you're still part of this organization that gets up to this nasty, evil stuff at the higher levels. :/ Just stupid. But then again, from things I heard from Jeff directly, Jordan wasn't the brightest bulb in the box. Did not strike me as a likeable guy that I wanted to get to know personally. And I could have, through Jeff, who kept trying to encourage me to talk to Jordan on the phone, since again, he worked directly for/with him and could easily make that happen. But I bypassed.
HiddenDimension
@Carissa_Conti @montalk Does Jeff have blonde hair, ponytail? Curious if its the same person that let Jordan park his trailer on their property years ago. Jordan was a guest on the show several times. I raised funds for the radio station using his DVDs. People were interested in this material circa 2012. You're right, I think we did go over this before.
I was told by someone in the club for a while, and got out, that at each degree you pledge an allegiance to a fallen angel. I guess when it goes to 33, its a symbol for a third of the angels that fell. They say it goes beyond that.
Carissa Conti
@HiddenDimension @montalk No, Jeff wasn't blonde with a pony. He had short, dark brunette hair. He had a major falling out with Jordan several years after working for him, don't know what happened. But he was long out of Jordan's life by the time Jordan passed away a few years ago. I don't know the details, only that Jeff turned against Jordan with some big drama. By that point Jeff was no longer an acquaintance of ours anyway. We had met Jeff via Tom's Noble Realms forum, and that's why we all met up to hang out in person. And the visit itself was okay enough. We all kept in touch for a bit of time after that via emails and even phone calls, where Jeff called us a couple of times while engaging in his travels. But there were a lot of weird things going on with Jeff, which is why we didn't continue keeping in contact. Too much to get into here, but a major aspect of it involved split personality behavior, "left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing." He had weird/woo stuff going on in his life. IMO, looking back on it all, I do believe he was the tool/puppet of "Something," being used for stuff. He also walked literally the same way researcher/author Peter Beter has described of Organic Robotoids. O.o I've never in my life seen anybody walk like Jeff did. The way the arms and legs moved in a different synch/gait from how normal people walk, holding the hips/butt completely stiff while doing so. It wasn't normal. All the while staring straight ahead with those big, blank eyes and blank face. O.o I'm just glad nothing negative happened to Tom and I during his visit with us and we escaped our interactions with him unscathed. If anything he did do us a favor by promoting our stuff for a period of time on a website he ran that also promoted Karla Turner, Barbara Bartholic and other alien/UFO/MILABs researchers.
HiddenDimension
@Carissa_Conti @montalk got it, I remember that falling out. I didn't know Jeff was also involved with those websites.
Montalk
@HiddenDimension If certain unsanctioned aliens can be kept from entering Earth's airspace, then in theory others can be kept from leaving.
But, as you pointed out, crafts come and go. Lots of UFO sightings where they leave ground and zoom off into space in a second.
Some abductees claim they've been taken to space, even the outer planets, or other planets entirely. If these crafts can go Mach 20+ in atmosphere, how fast can they go in space? What about signs of civilization on Mars?
Radiation belt shouldn't be a problem as they can just phase out and let the particles go right through. Besides, the belts are donuts so entering/exiting at the north and south poles would avoid much of the damage, which I guess could explain why Antarctica is so important to them.
I don't see any physical or technological limitation that keeps them here. Fore said that higher ultraterrestrials are forcefully keeping them here, which I guess is possible but I have no way of proving it either way and so it comes across as ad hoc until I have a good reason to believe otherwise.
Building the aura that way you mentioned is good. One thing I noticed about this "simulation" is that standing up for yourself, personal empowerment, embodiment, following your heart but also growing in discernment -- these are some core directives of the learning program if there is one. Growing your 'field' this way is different and deeper than simply visualizing light glowing in your chakras or something. I think it works at a different level of being.
As for the black ops humans, they're a secret society unto themselves, and like many secret societies feel we're backwards animals, and that they have the right to forge ahead and leave us behind or control us like beasts. It makes them so egotistical and insect-like that they have no problem targeting/torturing TIs for amusement or experimentation. These powers have no only hoarded the tech, but assassinated fringe inventors who were on the verge of getting free energy tech out there.
HiddenDimension
@montalk I appreciate that you openly discuss this material, despite the uncertainly of most of the material. Regarding this statement - As for the black ops humans, they're a secret society unto themselves, and like many secret societies feel we're backwards animals, and that they have the right to forge ahead and leave us behind or control us like beasts. It makes them so egotistical and insect-like that they have no problem targeting/torturing TIs for amusement or experimentation. These powers have no only hoarded the tech, but assassinated fringe inventors who were on the verge of getting free energy tech out there.
I suspect the secret groups saw the rest of the population as an eventual threat to their positions of power and then they chemically lobotomized the population so they're not dealing with an effectively organized uprising, implying humans are intentionally stripped of potential.
The inventor David Case is a great example of attacking an inventor with voice to skull. He was a guest a few months ago. James had him on for two hours.
Here is a video from 2018, I saw this craft coming down out of the sky. I'm looking northwest. I'm in a park in NJ, the Hudson river is behind me about a half mile. This very close to Teterboro airport.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNzsozg6gQE
UFO June 2018 - Budgetmoon
Montalk
@HiddenDimension Makes sense they'd dumb us down to make us less dangerous. Then they're behind the xeno-estrogens, fluoride in the water, chemtrails, vaccine schedules, 5G and other EM pollution, and more. I suspect they've been doing this for centuries including engineering what foods cultures eat. Nightshades have negative effects on mitochondria and brain function and after Columbus they really shoved them into every culture... potatoes for the Irish, tomatoes for Italians, tobacco for everyone (plus the white sugar). Chemical mind control. On the inventors being killed, sad but true. When I was 15 I wrote a letter to Atlantis Rising Magazine which got published, stating my ambitions on pursuing fringe science. A retired engineer saw it and tracked me down by mail to give me advice but mainly to warn me about the suppression of fringe inventors.
HiddenDimension
@montalk Agree, Sally Norton just published a book titled Toxic Superfoods, that explain how oxalates get into the body and cause all sorts of long term damage. An issue most doctors don't "seem" to know about. Spinach, Kale, Carrots, Chocolate are some major sources. While the suppression of fringe investors is very real, its also a counterintelligence move. Not unlike the homeopathic doctors dying. An effort to thwart motivation.
Montalk
@HiddenDimension My engineer pen pal told me that in this world, everything is inverted. Black is white, up is down. That included our diets. Superfoods that end up being super-bad-foods. Will check out Sally Norton's book, thanks!
AbducteeJournal
@montalk You phrased it better than I did!, just went on an Oscar winning rant.
HiddenDimension
@montalk Hi Tom,
I found this randomly on yt. He's addressing similar issues. Expect things to get more weird. . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5rAs1cNKkc
It's Not Our Planet | UAP Hearing Breakdown
Montalk 7-31-23
Some ET types correlate with traits of astrological signs, both positive and negative traits.
Why are aliens even beholden to astrological archetypes? Why do hostile Nordics fit negative Aquarian traits that include rebellion, cruelty, and condescension, which are Luciferian qualities? Fallen "angels"?
I mentioned this idea before, but here's an infographic laying it out: (Click and Scroll)
https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/widt...f6904d.png
Montalk 8-1-23
Simulations aren't typically run in real time. They're sped up to get faster results.
If we're in a sim, years can pass here with only minutes passing to those outside. They wouldn't age, from our perspective.
"Manifesting" would take time when the simulator responds to our subconscious at its own time rate. What might be days for us to manifest something, could be brief seconds for the simulator as it executes our intentions.
More complex rearrangements of the program (like manifesting big life changes) could take longer to execute, maybe a minute for the simulator to calculate how to balance all the variables but that ends up being years for us here.
So then, what's really sped up is the physics engine that generates this reality. Its frame rate or clock rate is very high. It's what generates our sense of linear time, and of course our 3D space.
Our consciousness, which originates outside the simulation, then synchronizes with that physics engine when incarnating or returning back to the body from an OBE. ETs have mentioned needing to synchronize with our time rate when interacting with us.
Speaking of ETs, it's interesting how they are notorious liars. They've lied about what planet they come from, why they're here, who they are, what this is all about. Lots of different narratives they have spun.
But as far as I know the deceiver types never mention the simulation idea. Either because it's not true, or because it *is* true and therefore it's the one thing they would never include in their made up narratives.
Just a theory.
Carissa Conti
@montalk Reminds me of the Outer Limits episode from season 2, episode 22, called "The Sentence." Especially the part about the time distortion inside the simulation vs. outside. I have a plot synopsis already written up about this episode as part of a large write up that hasn't yet been put out there, where I'm drilling down on "What is this place?? Real or fake??" Part of that write up includes TV shows and movies that deal with these themes, to see where the parallels may be to what's really happening. So here's the synopsis:
*Outer Limits episode,* Season 2, Episode 22 “The Sentence.” Original air date: August 4, 1996.
• Sometime in the near future technology enables the creation of a virtual reality “prison” that interfaces with the mind of somebody who’s been convicted of a crime. It enables the convicted criminal to virtually live out a prison sentence, where 25 years on the “inside” is equivalent to about one hour on the “outside,” since the technology is able to compress the perception of time in the prisoner’s mind. Thus saving tax payers money, and alleviating prison overcrowding.
• Once inside the virtual reality prison, the prisoner experiences amnesia, and doesn’t realize that everything is all in their mind. They truly believe they’re in a prison.
• The prison is also custom tailored to the psyche of each individual, with their personalities and fears shaping the sort of prison experience they’ll find themselves surrounded by.
• The added bonus, according to the inventors, is that 90% of the time when a prisoner is brought back into the real world after serving their “25 years” they’ll experience such overwhelming gratitude and relief that only one hour has actually passed and they still have their entire lives ahead of them, that they do in fact go on to become reformed and useful citizens. Unlike the statistics of criminals who serve out real prison sentences, wasting tax payers’ money, and being of no use to the world while they do so, and no use if and when they emerge, too old and feeble/unhealthy to contribute anything of value.
• Found this plot to have interesting correlations to aspects of our own reality. The repeating theme of a “fake reality,” where there’s an “inside” and “outside,” coupled with “amnesia,” and where our own minds are shaping how things go, for good and bad. And possibly the idea of time distortion, where time on the “inside” is different from that on the “outside.” It’s also cliché that abductees (whether of the “alien” or MILAB variety) experience “missing time” and all around time distortion during their experiences.
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Also calls to mind the infamous Men In Black, who've been known to ask random people that they cross paths with, "What is your time cycle??" according to researcher John Keel. Speaking and behaving very oddly, as if out of synch with the time rate that's happening "in here"/in the program.
I've had enough experiences by this point that are completely impossible in any truly real, organic reality to lead me to have to unfortunately conclude that yes, we are in some sort of super sophisticated simulation program of some sorts, the likes of which I can't even wrap my mind around. Things that could only be possible if this were a program. I've also had repeated experiences showing me that there's an "inside" versus an "outside." Previously I was thinking the "outside" was purely spiritual-based, as opposed to the "inside" which is physical/on Earth/down on the ground/3rd density, etc. etc. But again now I'm having to realize that the spiritual isn't what we think it is, AT all, and the higher positive stuff that's "outside" is something very different from what I used to think years ago. O.o It seems to be something that's existing outside of a program, which is why it has absolute control as far as I've seen, able to completely undo things right before your eyes if need be, slow things down, make things appear/disappear out of nowhere, etc. If this world were truly organic and physical that wouldn't be possible.
In fact, in looking back over so many random anecdotes that I've experienced, as well as some accidental "higher communications" here and there, it all makes more sense in the context of the simulation theory then it does with the "physical 3rd density vs. higher spiritual planes" theory. Some of the insights I've been given, the information I've gleaned about why I'm here, who I am, who I'm connected to "up there" (really "out" there...) all of that.....again, makes way more sense in terms of a simulation that we chose to enter into. The real question then becomes....is the afterlife just another part of the simulation? Or is that truly "out"?
See you on the other side
@Carissa_Conti @montalk
https://youtu.be/wSVlOAocn8E
Film Theory: The Matrix has NO ESCAPE
Carissa Conti
@guanajo @montalk There's no way I'm not going to be able to listen to this video based on the way the guy is talking and presenting things at the beginning. O.o That over enthusiastic, over inflected talking style with lots of stupid graphics moving around the screen is what annoying YouTubers do when trying to maintain the short attention spans of idiots. Tom knows exactly how much I hate narrations and presentations of this type. If you care to summarize things though to give me the idea of whatever points he makes so I don't have to sit through it, that's cool.
See you on the other side
Carissa_Conti @montalk
It’s pretty simple, the architect knew there would always be people that would want to escape the Matrix so he created Zion as a side program and created the narrative of “The One” so that people could ”escape” the Matrix and unbeknownst to them just end up in another program. Considering the evidence the annoying guy presents, I think it’s very possible. So in our “reality” the new “Truth Movement” is Zion, IMO. That’s it.
Carissa Conti
@guanajo @montalk Got it, thanks. :) BTW....you just need to get back on Gab. Look at all the cool discussions you're missing out on!
See you on the other side
@Carissa_Conti @montalk Well, I don't think I'm gonna stay away from Gab forever but for now I'll continue to peek my head in here and there just to see what you two and AJ are up to. Especially once you two start publishing your new podcast.
I think that when the time is right, I'll come back and be more active here. Maybe sooner than later, who knows.
Btw, this is really frigin random but a few weeks ago, just out of dumb curiosity, I went to a horoscope site just to see how different signs would be or not compatible with mine, Capricorn. According to the website Taurus is one of the most compatible to my sign out of the whole frigin zodiac. So Tom is my match! I just found it hilarious.
Carissa Conti
@guanajo @montalk Well yeah, the way astrology is supposed to work, by the books, is that signs of each element get on best with the fellow signs of their own element. So Capricorn, Taurus and Virgo are all (feminine) Earth signs, and therefore are supposed to be the most compatible with each other. Secondary compatibility for Earth signs are the (feminine) water signs of Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. Then the (masculine) air signs and (masculine) fire signs are going to be the ones that are most compatible with each other. However IMO there is too much emphasis placed on "sun signs" in astrology, without taking into account one's moon sign placement and the rest of the chart. And also things like our numerological life path number and Chinese (year of the whatever animal) astrology. I have an astrological write up in the works that's the more comprehensive version of the one that I posted here on Gab months back. Should be going up shortly. It gets into all this, but in a fun and entertaining (and politically incorrect but honest) way, while ultimately getting into that one big question...."What Is This Place Really??" The focus of the write up is the idea that we're clearly being stamped with these artificial personalities that are completely pinpoint-able, like there's no denying it's a real thing, but it's clearly not about the constellations. So...where is it coming from? And why and how and by who? So yeah, should be going up soon.
Space Cadet
@guanajo @Carissa_Conti @montalk yes, gab had been quiet for awhile. I haven’t been very chatty for weeks either. Maybe a change in tides is coming that will spark more good topics. News and the woo has been pretty uneventful. And of course, we are in the pull of the full moon. Looking forward to more astrology posts.
Inspire369
@montalk interesting. Just thinking about mental illness like schizophrenia ,I wonder if it is caused by some kind of malfunction in the link between the originating consciousness and here.
Montalk
@Captain_DA Seems like a synchronization and tuning problem in some cases, but schizophrenia is a syndrome as many causes and symptoms are lumped under that term. Some is genuinely biological, some is just entities jacking in and inducing voices/visuals/feelings, some just paranoid thought patterns that become self-reinforcing and run out of control, and some is psychic ability opening a person up to "sideband" realities. It's the opposite of being an anchored and properly programmed NPC.
2oVo5
It was a central facet of modern society for several decades. Disneyland simulates a child's life of leisure and sense of freshness with life; a Disney princess is like a teenage girl who needs to get everything she wants out of life. Actors simulate the lives of people they have never met. Occult seership often simulates the physical world (landforms, plants, and architecture), and that simulates a vip section of a club filled with douchebags that think they're better than you. A strong and comprehensive enough thoughtform that simulates the world can impose its will on (perhaps hijack another simulation) it fairly effectively, that is what is done by every academic institution. However, simulations can compete just how YouTube overshadowed movies, opening up the opportunity to choose proper simulations and reject flawed ones.
Space Cadet
The simulation idea has been on my mind a lot lately. I’ll share a bit about a wild experience I had (like in a simulation) while I was experiencing/sensing negative astral “stuff.” I felt like a player in a game, and when in certain public places, it felt like time changed - slowed down and there was more reality between the “frames” of linear time and space. When within certain boundaries/locations, 4D controllers/characters could bend things, mess around and feed off of us just like in stranger things (upside down world). When a player in the game goes active (negs influence them/or they become aware of this bending[the game]), the player’s mind aids in creating this underworld reality through their fears (paranoid thoughts etc.) and actions/lack of action. The mind would be the center/local space that seeds and sprouts the reality of the wider world (between the frames).
So, in this sense, we’d all be players in a giant simulation game that’s controlled by 4D beings, and it all being about loosh of course. This is what we’ve all been talking about all these years, but the point being, the high majority has no clue how this world works, and it makes you wonder, like others here are saying, how much within our lives, in the 3D world is even real? What IS real? Is it all like a moving picture and we are advanced 3D holograms, our souls moving around in these bodies like wandering spirits stuck in a 4D projected (programmed) 3D prison?Does this mean our lives have less value than we thought? Or are our lives the ultimate test/space where our “work” here is the value that’s carried from one life to the next, the lessons and experiences we take are what connects us to our soul while within the matrix, our soul, hearts, and minds being what transcends the prison.
The “using our minds” as a prison, which Carissa mentioned, might not be far off from the mind controlled borg future that many have warned us about. Another thing I was shown was that our minds can be used as a dome screen (maybe in the future), where the controllers may project whatever they please directly into our heads, broadcasting things like introductions to their world/game as an example. I was pulled into visions where I was shown how neg. beings torture and feed off us (in great detail), like “hey, this is our world, this is what we do to you, so get ready for the game!” This type of "broadcast" could be used to terrify the public as disclosure is rolled out, creating the good cop/bad cop scenario, causing chaos, and people would go crazy. It could also be a way to broadcast the”truth” (I say that loosely), showing people the terrible reality of what has been hidden from us, like the Q phrase: some people cannot be told the truth, they must be shown, and the broadcast could be tailored to each individual, based on their specific role and what they can handle.
I call this the Event Horizon, a global broadcast direct to our minds, maybe a collective projected dream, which I’ve heard some mention could happen (where mult. people wake from the same dream/projection). Imagine the possibilities of all they could do once they can broadcast directly to our minds. Jabs (nano tech/hydra) aiding the process of controlling the collective slave race. Abductees are already equipped with implants, mind control etc. Will there come a time where many will “activate?” Who will be strong enough to maintain control of their soul if/when there is a takeover, and will neg. influences just slip in and take people over, creating a live game of chaos and madness? They can then pull the whole "order from chaos," come in and "save us" or offer/take control of the madness.
Or how about those 3D humans with 4D bodies/copies (our 4D selves) etc.? As the veil lifts, some may begin to sense what’s going on on the other side. Like, take this technology from Sourin’, for example: A human body suspended in front of a giant screen, made to see, hear, and even smell and feel (wind, temperature) the simulated environment. Flip the technology/invert it…. A 3D player could begin to pick up on his/her 4D self being put through a mind control/torture simulation using the same technology, showing anything from end of days scenarios, made to watch and even experience the torture they are seeing (add electric/sensation probes). Just take this video and invert it - upside down world. A 3D human “waking up” could experience bleed throughs of their 4D experiences and feel things like mild sensations/electric shock and see the visions of the 4D simulation directly to their mind, the 3D human experiencing a toned down version of their 4D player’s experience. Our 3D actions/thoughts could affect our 4D experience and vice versa, the 2 worlds begin to merge, a symbiotic relationship within the 3D/4D game. Cause and effect. If we behave/do what they want, the torture/simulation stops. If we mess up, the 4D torture/3Dsensations continue. Kinda scary to think about.
https://youtu.be/urJctz0C71I
An insider's look at Epcot's Soarin' Around the World
Montalk 8-1-23
I think our consciousness is plugged into a cosmic Mind, Soul, or Thoughtform that generates this collective experience. Part of it is programmed as a virtual physics engine that runs at the speed of light to simulate space, time, matter and energy. The illusion is solid but imperfect.
In lucid dreams, you can use intent to change the dream. But it takes time for changes to manifest. Yet, dream physics reacts instantly. Push something and it starts moving. In dreams, the subconscious responds to both direct action and intention... one instantly, the other with a delay. The physics engine in our dreams is created by the subconscious per its programmed expectations.
Same could be true in our waking world. Physics reacts at the speed of light, while intention takes a bit longer to manifest. To override physics, one must control the programming that generates it, which is etheric energy.
In a way, the etheric plane must be the physics engine then. If you have mastery over etheric energy, you can bend the laws of physics and accomplish magickal changes to matter and energy (like instant healing of wounds). But you're still operating within the simulation.
Meanwhile, the astral plane is associated with soul, emotion, subconscious, symbolism, afterlife, and nonlinear time. Astral might be the field of the cosmic Mind. No wonder, then, that to reality create you have to go within and evoke emotions and visuals and reconfigure your soul astral energy patterns. You're changing the part of you that's connected to the cosmic Mind, thereby changing it and thus your "dreamscape" after some time delay.
Manifesting (Law of Attraction) works via this astral cosmic Mind field, while tricks like bending spoons and phasing through solid walls (ET tech) uses etheric field control.
Montalk 8-3-23
New podcast interview (55 minutes):
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@HiddenDimensionI I think the shift is either inevitable or planned, even if only culturally via the things we focus on and direct our society toward.
The reason it has to happen sooner rather than later is:
1 - Global cataclysms that could wipe out too much precious human 'crop' (from the alien perspective) and destabilize the farm, unless something is done about that like totalitarian lockdowns and advanced technology to aid survival.
2 - Negative aliens are itching to get this takeover / hybrid infiltration / transition going. Timing is everything and they need to capitalize on social, geopolitical, and economic chaos to leverage their manipulation. Since the latter is heading to its singularity, seems they're getting ready to pull the trigger.
3 - Since they are making the first moves, that opens the door to black ops and positive ETs to also come out into the open. All of these have been covert up to now because there was a status quo to protect. But if the status quo falls apart, what is left to wreck by coming out? If nothing, then they're coming out.
3 - People are indeed increasingly waking up. Goes back to catalysts like 9/11, Ron Paul, Alex Jones, David Icke, Trump, Covid, all the Biden / PC / Queer / BLM nonsense on display, and other cultural influences.
I see too many singularities converging at the same time, leading to a breakdown/transformation of the old order. Since we know from UFOlogy that aliens are already "involved" so much in our affairs and are veritable control freaks, think of how much control they'll be exerting when things get chaotic. They (and black ops / breakaway civilization) will be the primary shapers of what happens after the singularities unglue the status quo. That's because they have the power, technology, foresight, and willpower to shape the future while the general population lacks cohesion, coherence, motivation and are followers.
So our future is on a collision course with their future, and it therefore needs softening up and preparation for this reality shock. Both the positive and negative factions would want this. Negative want a disinformative disclosure to mentally/culturally steer humanity into their kill zone. Positives would want fuller truer disclosure to pre-empt them. But we'll see.
You're right that current Disclosure efforts are not touching abductions. Negative groups wouldn't want to taint their image, and positive groups know that convincing the public with an incremental drip feed is important to make it a smoother transition.
The abduction thing leads to various implications and requirements that aren't in place yet... When/if abductions get confirmed, paranoia will grow about who's an alien agent, how much trust we can have in our leaders, whether we should round up abductees as national security threats in case they're manchurian candidates or knowing agents, etc. and that's too far ahead in the plot.
For now it looks like they're getting credibility established, centralized reporting system for military and commercial pilots focusing on sensor data and expert witness descriptions, interrogating the hostile witnesses behind the coverup, and basically just establishing the presence and general nature of alien technologies. Pretty basic things but they're up against apathy and institutional inertia. But considering how much everything has been accelerating the past few years, it may keep accelerating and so by 2030 let's see where things are.
Montalk
@BrujaBuena @HiddenDimension Yes it's like "all the world's a stage" and they can go behind the curtain, manipulate the set, and whisper lines into our ears to manipulate the plot. They have access to a degree of freedom (movement to/from another realm) that we, as incarnated humans, cannot easily access. I think the show Westworld is the closest metaphor to that, followed by the movie Dark City.
Space Cadet
@montalk @BrujaBuena @HiddenDimension With 4D Oriented Reality being promoted and, eventually, the media referring to ETs as Interdimensionals, I wonder if that would mean disclosure will come in 2 waves (and other sub saves along the spectrum/gray areas) - meaning, deception will be an ongoing option, but those who dig deeper will discover a form of disclosure closer to the truth. The dark and light paths being choices at the convergence point I suppose. A Holographic/dreamworld/game reality becoming more widespread in public awareness could pull people into a global “interactive reality creation” sort of “known” simulation, where more people will become aware of how their mind/actions truly shape reality and this becomes the new “oasis”/ready-player-one type game trend, but the key being WHICH VERSION of disclosure does one choose within the game, the ones choosing the deception are then used, literally, like programmable avatars, and the ETs are the monsters (negs) and heroic “Gods” (Nordics). Abductees and hybrids could be “super heroes.” I guess that would be the world stage.
Montalk
@FrozenDecoded @BrujaBuena @HiddenDimension The Disclosure/Deception process is already underway in incremental stages, and yes there seem to be different ET / human agendas contributing to it, whether it's time travelers from different futures, or opposing ET factions, or different secret societies or government factions. So that means we're getting multiple conflicting influences, and the intensity of these will ramp up over time. For all I know, it could escalate into an all-out futuristic brawl with battles in the sky and key human proxies being evacuated as the sun goes nuts and comets are about to pelt the Earth, everything but the credits rolling.
Montalk 7-30-23
Deep State and Hostile ETs, partners in crime. You can't have full Disclosure of one without the other. You can't take down one without the other. Both are in the early stages of coming to light. Wait and see.
This Venn diagram should ideally be enclosed in a bigger circle labeled "Demons / Archons / 8th Sphere" as everything physical is ultimately a projection or consequence of the metaphysical. This isn't fundamentally a geopolitical / alien / time war, but a cosmic spiritual war.
https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/widt...98c281.png
Carissa Conti
@montalk This ties into the big "MILABs vs. Aliens?" debate that's been going on for decades. (And MILABs ties into deep state Cabal/Black Ops, etc. activities for those who may be unfamiliar.) It's something I addressed straight away at the beginning of Part I of "Chasing Phantoms," because both sides are being accused of doing the exact same things, therefore creating a lot of confusion in abduction lore. Many proponents of MILABs don't believe there's an alien component at all, that it's just costume trickery/mind control/hypnotic suggestions being implemented by human abductors/programmers to create screen memory covers in order to protect their own identity and agendas. There's evidence in abduction lore for not only that, but also "gray alien robotics" in underground bases which are neither alien, nor interdimensionals. Just good ol' "robotic worker drones." Meanwhile I have met an alien abductee who at that point was the only person I'd come across who believed it was all strictly aliens, and that there is no MILABs, because her experiences seemed to be purely alien and hybrid in nature. So I've heard from both sides of the argument. Each argument is understandable when again...each side only sees evidence for their specific abductors, and when the victims and researchers are reporting that both groups are doing the exact same things. Makes it a mess to untangle. Especially for victims who are trying to sort out who's really who and what's really what with their memory fragments and experiences.
I myself do believe though that there's both happening. True MILABs, and true "alien"/interdimensional/non human entities, whatever they actually are. Most of these groups are probably working separately, not in cahoots, with a multitude of agendas, but I do believe that some have joined forces at some point in recent history, creating that overlap, since that's what abduction victims, whistleblowers and researchers have revealed time and again. And it's why at this point you kind of can't have one without the other.
Space Cadet
@Carissa_Conti @montalk “I myself do believe though that there's both happening. True MILABs, and true "alien"/interdimensional/non human entities”
The overlap section of the diagram covers both groups here as well. The confusion helps big influencers control and shape the narrative, so they and the overseeing ETs can get the most use out of the human livestock. I could see MILAB and ET narratives being used/favored at different times and in different scenarios to “fit” whatever outcome is desired.
“Makes it a mess to untangle. Especially for victims who are trying to sort out who's really who and what's really what with their memory fragments and experiences.”
More confusion and chaos adds to that ideal environment for more walls to close in on the human farm (lock downs, genocide by medicine, media control etc.) . For those waking up to their involvement with abductions, the conflicting narratives would cause disharmony in, both, support for victims, and also, credibility for those who share/go public with their stories, a split in opinions/beliefs causing more mayhem. As for abductees, I hope there are enough positive/truth influencers and a “rise up” movement takes storm, so they can use their experiences to guide and shape humanity’s 4D future. Being aware of the madness is a difficult life to begin with, so the odds being against awake abductees would be a disservice to humanity but also just sucks for those who have suffered. Hopefully, there will be vindication and justice.
Carissa Conti
@FrozenDecoded
"The overlap section of the diagram covers both groups here as well."
I know....that was the point of my comment. :D Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, I don't know.....
Space Cadet
@Carissa_Conti Nah, you got it. I’m validating that part. Both sides hit every single point, so it’s really the same phenomenon but two wings of the same bird in a way. Now, we’ll see if and when enough truth and actual exposure of what REALLY is happening comes to the light and if it’s enough to shift things upward. It’s pretty sad how little most people know though…
HiddenDimension
@montalk Negative alien take over reminds me of how humans aren't powerless, but have been programmed away from some key innate strengths and ability. I think one way is making small decisions out of courage, basically keeping your word, being on time, cultivating trust in your self, then that builds confidence and self esteem, then your frequency shifts toward the positive, building a stronger auric field. That method builds on itself and you fortify the mind body spirit realm through that practice. Then as Carissa wrote about in Chasing Phantoms, you're off their radar.
How much damage must occur before positive entities step in? Not unlike in MMA matches where the fighter gets knocked to the ground, but then the opponent jumps on them and is repeatedly beating their face, and the ref is watching. . . deciding, ok is that enough, wait, are they still coherent? nope they're done, its over and steps in to call the match.
Black ops humans have betrayed society on so many levels. The CEO of Skunkworks was quoted years ago saying they would rather die than release their technology out to society. Not even some of it for cleaner energy?
To work with aliens for decades or who knows how long, and remember these are beings known to be advanced many centuries ahead of humans, and then its assumed their human whistleblowers are legit?
Regarding 2030, the religious community have examined that date through biblical scripture, worth looking at, I think.
Michael Tsarion, in a presentation back in 2005 or so, said that humans are trapped on this planet with savage beings that were chased here from another galaxy and crashed, destroying their tech. A genetic fence was then put in place to trap them here. (Van Allan belts?)
Most know the story of what then happens to the hominids here regarding DNA upgrades. As centuries went by, when these beings reassembled their technology they started to blast the DNA fence with atmospheric nuclear and hydrogen detonations. Tsarion said if they can't escape then they will lord over all with impunity.
Not sure about that hypothesis. I've seen craft come and go, near big airports. Could be hyperdimensional alien craft.
Carissa Conti
@HiddenDimension @montalk
"As centuries went by, when these beings reassembled their technology they started to blast the DNA fence with atmospheric nuclear and hydrogen detonations."
That's funny. I wonder where he got this story from. Meanwhile Flat Earthers have their version of it, which is that humans started to blast the "firmament fence" with atmospheric nuclear and hydrogen detonations to see if they could blow their way through it, to get off the supposed disk. Same story, different reason/bad guy inserted in.
One thing Tsarion said that I don't doubt is that humans are trapped on this planet. The everyday human that is. It seems elite black ops humans have the ability to travel a little more freely, and have probably been to moon bases and to Mars and such. But when everyday humans believe what Hollywood tells them, that we all can someday collectively achieve interstellar travel! and colonize other planets! and that maybe their descendants will get to be involved in that! It's just...... Never gonna happen. We are not welcome nor allowed out there. It's probably a little more complicated than what Tsarion is outlining, more to it than just Reptilians/Grays/Mantids/whatever else being quarantined here, which then by default extends to the human inhabitants. But the gist is the same. Humans collectively speaking will never be allowed off this planet to go tromp around the solar system or galaxy, acting like we own the joint. We don't own jack. We are the ones who are owned. 99% of people on this planet don't understand this. O.o
HiddenDimension
@Carissa_Conti @montalk Michael Tsarion, as with David Icke was mentored by Jordan Maxwell. This is according to a rant Jordan went on complaining about their success and not much attribution for him. I was told that Jordan was a Scottish Rite Freemason. A lodge member in San Diego told me this randomly in conversation that Jordan is on their list of members. Could this be a potential source of this DNA fence story? Hmm, certainly something to think about when you watch the Trinity movie narrated by William Shatner.
Carissa Conti
@HiddenDimension @montalk Jordan was a Freemason, second degree. This was told to Tom and I years ago by a guy named Jeff who used to work directly for/with Jordan for several years back in the mid-2000s. We met Jeff in person, and he stayed in our apartment in our spare room while visiting. Jeff told us that Jordan was second degree, and that Jordan had said never go beyond that level, otherwise they own you basically. It's like selling your soul. There's no going back. He told Jeff that if you join up and go as far as second it can open some doors for you in life, which is why Jordan supposedly joined. I don't think Jeff ever did though. Think I mentioned this to you before though a few months ago here on Gab. But my philosophy? Never be any degree. ;) Just a personal preference but, I don't need any of the doors that freemasonry, and the female equivalent, would open. !! All the degrees are Satanic IMO, I don't care what people say. The whole thing is bad news. I don't understand the reasoning of people like Jordan who only saw A) how it benefits them personally in the material world, while B) thinking that because they "only" went as far as second it somehow makes them okay. Not realizing - or willfully ignoring - what the higher degrees are getting up to. (very nasty, evil stuff.) Compartmentalizing one's involvement in the lowest levels and not realizing - you're still part of this organization that gets up to this nasty, evil stuff at the higher levels. :/ Just stupid. But then again, from things I heard from Jeff directly, Jordan wasn't the brightest bulb in the box. Did not strike me as a likeable guy that I wanted to get to know personally. And I could have, through Jeff, who kept trying to encourage me to talk to Jordan on the phone, since again, he worked directly for/with him and could easily make that happen. But I bypassed.
HiddenDimension
@Carissa_Conti @montalk Does Jeff have blonde hair, ponytail? Curious if its the same person that let Jordan park his trailer on their property years ago. Jordan was a guest on the show several times. I raised funds for the radio station using his DVDs. People were interested in this material circa 2012. You're right, I think we did go over this before.
I was told by someone in the club for a while, and got out, that at each degree you pledge an allegiance to a fallen angel. I guess when it goes to 33, its a symbol for a third of the angels that fell. They say it goes beyond that.
Carissa Conti
@HiddenDimension @montalk No, Jeff wasn't blonde with a pony. He had short, dark brunette hair. He had a major falling out with Jordan several years after working for him, don't know what happened. But he was long out of Jordan's life by the time Jordan passed away a few years ago. I don't know the details, only that Jeff turned against Jordan with some big drama. By that point Jeff was no longer an acquaintance of ours anyway. We had met Jeff via Tom's Noble Realms forum, and that's why we all met up to hang out in person. And the visit itself was okay enough. We all kept in touch for a bit of time after that via emails and even phone calls, where Jeff called us a couple of times while engaging in his travels. But there were a lot of weird things going on with Jeff, which is why we didn't continue keeping in contact. Too much to get into here, but a major aspect of it involved split personality behavior, "left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing." He had weird/woo stuff going on in his life. IMO, looking back on it all, I do believe he was the tool/puppet of "Something," being used for stuff. He also walked literally the same way researcher/author Peter Beter has described of Organic Robotoids. O.o I've never in my life seen anybody walk like Jeff did. The way the arms and legs moved in a different synch/gait from how normal people walk, holding the hips/butt completely stiff while doing so. It wasn't normal. All the while staring straight ahead with those big, blank eyes and blank face. O.o I'm just glad nothing negative happened to Tom and I during his visit with us and we escaped our interactions with him unscathed. If anything he did do us a favor by promoting our stuff for a period of time on a website he ran that also promoted Karla Turner, Barbara Bartholic and other alien/UFO/MILABs researchers.
HiddenDimension
@Carissa_Conti @montalk got it, I remember that falling out. I didn't know Jeff was also involved with those websites.
Montalk
@HiddenDimension If certain unsanctioned aliens can be kept from entering Earth's airspace, then in theory others can be kept from leaving.
But, as you pointed out, crafts come and go. Lots of UFO sightings where they leave ground and zoom off into space in a second.
Some abductees claim they've been taken to space, even the outer planets, or other planets entirely. If these crafts can go Mach 20+ in atmosphere, how fast can they go in space? What about signs of civilization on Mars?
Radiation belt shouldn't be a problem as they can just phase out and let the particles go right through. Besides, the belts are donuts so entering/exiting at the north and south poles would avoid much of the damage, which I guess could explain why Antarctica is so important to them.
I don't see any physical or technological limitation that keeps them here. Fore said that higher ultraterrestrials are forcefully keeping them here, which I guess is possible but I have no way of proving it either way and so it comes across as ad hoc until I have a good reason to believe otherwise.
Building the aura that way you mentioned is good. One thing I noticed about this "simulation" is that standing up for yourself, personal empowerment, embodiment, following your heart but also growing in discernment -- these are some core directives of the learning program if there is one. Growing your 'field' this way is different and deeper than simply visualizing light glowing in your chakras or something. I think it works at a different level of being.
As for the black ops humans, they're a secret society unto themselves, and like many secret societies feel we're backwards animals, and that they have the right to forge ahead and leave us behind or control us like beasts. It makes them so egotistical and insect-like that they have no problem targeting/torturing TIs for amusement or experimentation. These powers have no only hoarded the tech, but assassinated fringe inventors who were on the verge of getting free energy tech out there.
HiddenDimension
@montalk I appreciate that you openly discuss this material, despite the uncertainly of most of the material. Regarding this statement - As for the black ops humans, they're a secret society unto themselves, and like many secret societies feel we're backwards animals, and that they have the right to forge ahead and leave us behind or control us like beasts. It makes them so egotistical and insect-like that they have no problem targeting/torturing TIs for amusement or experimentation. These powers have no only hoarded the tech, but assassinated fringe inventors who were on the verge of getting free energy tech out there.
I suspect the secret groups saw the rest of the population as an eventual threat to their positions of power and then they chemically lobotomized the population so they're not dealing with an effectively organized uprising, implying humans are intentionally stripped of potential.
The inventor David Case is a great example of attacking an inventor with voice to skull. He was a guest a few months ago. James had him on for two hours.
Here is a video from 2018, I saw this craft coming down out of the sky. I'm looking northwest. I'm in a park in NJ, the Hudson river is behind me about a half mile. This very close to Teterboro airport.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNzsozg6gQE
UFO June 2018 - Budgetmoon
Montalk
@HiddenDimension Makes sense they'd dumb us down to make us less dangerous. Then they're behind the xeno-estrogens, fluoride in the water, chemtrails, vaccine schedules, 5G and other EM pollution, and more. I suspect they've been doing this for centuries including engineering what foods cultures eat. Nightshades have negative effects on mitochondria and brain function and after Columbus they really shoved them into every culture... potatoes for the Irish, tomatoes for Italians, tobacco for everyone (plus the white sugar). Chemical mind control. On the inventors being killed, sad but true. When I was 15 I wrote a letter to Atlantis Rising Magazine which got published, stating my ambitions on pursuing fringe science. A retired engineer saw it and tracked me down by mail to give me advice but mainly to warn me about the suppression of fringe inventors.
HiddenDimension
@montalk Agree, Sally Norton just published a book titled Toxic Superfoods, that explain how oxalates get into the body and cause all sorts of long term damage. An issue most doctors don't "seem" to know about. Spinach, Kale, Carrots, Chocolate are some major sources. While the suppression of fringe investors is very real, its also a counterintelligence move. Not unlike the homeopathic doctors dying. An effort to thwart motivation.
Montalk
@HiddenDimension My engineer pen pal told me that in this world, everything is inverted. Black is white, up is down. That included our diets. Superfoods that end up being super-bad-foods. Will check out Sally Norton's book, thanks!
AbducteeJournal
@montalk You phrased it better than I did!, just went on an Oscar winning rant.
HiddenDimension
@montalk Hi Tom,
I found this randomly on yt. He's addressing similar issues. Expect things to get more weird. . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5rAs1cNKkc
It's Not Our Planet | UAP Hearing Breakdown
Montalk 7-31-23
Some ET types correlate with traits of astrological signs, both positive and negative traits.
Why are aliens even beholden to astrological archetypes? Why do hostile Nordics fit negative Aquarian traits that include rebellion, cruelty, and condescension, which are Luciferian qualities? Fallen "angels"?
I mentioned this idea before, but here's an infographic laying it out: (Click and Scroll)
https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/widt...f6904d.png
Montalk 8-1-23
Simulations aren't typically run in real time. They're sped up to get faster results.
If we're in a sim, years can pass here with only minutes passing to those outside. They wouldn't age, from our perspective.
"Manifesting" would take time when the simulator responds to our subconscious at its own time rate. What might be days for us to manifest something, could be brief seconds for the simulator as it executes our intentions.
More complex rearrangements of the program (like manifesting big life changes) could take longer to execute, maybe a minute for the simulator to calculate how to balance all the variables but that ends up being years for us here.
So then, what's really sped up is the physics engine that generates this reality. Its frame rate or clock rate is very high. It's what generates our sense of linear time, and of course our 3D space.
Our consciousness, which originates outside the simulation, then synchronizes with that physics engine when incarnating or returning back to the body from an OBE. ETs have mentioned needing to synchronize with our time rate when interacting with us.
Speaking of ETs, it's interesting how they are notorious liars. They've lied about what planet they come from, why they're here, who they are, what this is all about. Lots of different narratives they have spun.
But as far as I know the deceiver types never mention the simulation idea. Either because it's not true, or because it *is* true and therefore it's the one thing they would never include in their made up narratives.
Just a theory.
Carissa Conti
@montalk Reminds me of the Outer Limits episode from season 2, episode 22, called "The Sentence." Especially the part about the time distortion inside the simulation vs. outside. I have a plot synopsis already written up about this episode as part of a large write up that hasn't yet been put out there, where I'm drilling down on "What is this place?? Real or fake??" Part of that write up includes TV shows and movies that deal with these themes, to see where the parallels may be to what's really happening. So here's the synopsis:
*Outer Limits episode,* Season 2, Episode 22 “The Sentence.” Original air date: August 4, 1996.
• Sometime in the near future technology enables the creation of a virtual reality “prison” that interfaces with the mind of somebody who’s been convicted of a crime. It enables the convicted criminal to virtually live out a prison sentence, where 25 years on the “inside” is equivalent to about one hour on the “outside,” since the technology is able to compress the perception of time in the prisoner’s mind. Thus saving tax payers money, and alleviating prison overcrowding.
• Once inside the virtual reality prison, the prisoner experiences amnesia, and doesn’t realize that everything is all in their mind. They truly believe they’re in a prison.
• The prison is also custom tailored to the psyche of each individual, with their personalities and fears shaping the sort of prison experience they’ll find themselves surrounded by.
• The added bonus, according to the inventors, is that 90% of the time when a prisoner is brought back into the real world after serving their “25 years” they’ll experience such overwhelming gratitude and relief that only one hour has actually passed and they still have their entire lives ahead of them, that they do in fact go on to become reformed and useful citizens. Unlike the statistics of criminals who serve out real prison sentences, wasting tax payers’ money, and being of no use to the world while they do so, and no use if and when they emerge, too old and feeble/unhealthy to contribute anything of value.
• Found this plot to have interesting correlations to aspects of our own reality. The repeating theme of a “fake reality,” where there’s an “inside” and “outside,” coupled with “amnesia,” and where our own minds are shaping how things go, for good and bad. And possibly the idea of time distortion, where time on the “inside” is different from that on the “outside.” It’s also cliché that abductees (whether of the “alien” or MILAB variety) experience “missing time” and all around time distortion during their experiences.
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Also calls to mind the infamous Men In Black, who've been known to ask random people that they cross paths with, "What is your time cycle??" according to researcher John Keel. Speaking and behaving very oddly, as if out of synch with the time rate that's happening "in here"/in the program.
I've had enough experiences by this point that are completely impossible in any truly real, organic reality to lead me to have to unfortunately conclude that yes, we are in some sort of super sophisticated simulation program of some sorts, the likes of which I can't even wrap my mind around. Things that could only be possible if this were a program. I've also had repeated experiences showing me that there's an "inside" versus an "outside." Previously I was thinking the "outside" was purely spiritual-based, as opposed to the "inside" which is physical/on Earth/down on the ground/3rd density, etc. etc. But again now I'm having to realize that the spiritual isn't what we think it is, AT all, and the higher positive stuff that's "outside" is something very different from what I used to think years ago. O.o It seems to be something that's existing outside of a program, which is why it has absolute control as far as I've seen, able to completely undo things right before your eyes if need be, slow things down, make things appear/disappear out of nowhere, etc. If this world were truly organic and physical that wouldn't be possible.
In fact, in looking back over so many random anecdotes that I've experienced, as well as some accidental "higher communications" here and there, it all makes more sense in the context of the simulation theory then it does with the "physical 3rd density vs. higher spiritual planes" theory. Some of the insights I've been given, the information I've gleaned about why I'm here, who I am, who I'm connected to "up there" (really "out" there...) all of that.....again, makes way more sense in terms of a simulation that we chose to enter into. The real question then becomes....is the afterlife just another part of the simulation? Or is that truly "out"?
See you on the other side
@Carissa_Conti @montalk
https://youtu.be/wSVlOAocn8E
Film Theory: The Matrix has NO ESCAPE
Carissa Conti
@guanajo @montalk There's no way I'm not going to be able to listen to this video based on the way the guy is talking and presenting things at the beginning. O.o That over enthusiastic, over inflected talking style with lots of stupid graphics moving around the screen is what annoying YouTubers do when trying to maintain the short attention spans of idiots. Tom knows exactly how much I hate narrations and presentations of this type. If you care to summarize things though to give me the idea of whatever points he makes so I don't have to sit through it, that's cool.
See you on the other side
Carissa_Conti @montalk
It’s pretty simple, the architect knew there would always be people that would want to escape the Matrix so he created Zion as a side program and created the narrative of “The One” so that people could ”escape” the Matrix and unbeknownst to them just end up in another program. Considering the evidence the annoying guy presents, I think it’s very possible. So in our “reality” the new “Truth Movement” is Zion, IMO. That’s it.
Carissa Conti
@guanajo @montalk Got it, thanks. :) BTW....you just need to get back on Gab. Look at all the cool discussions you're missing out on!
See you on the other side
@Carissa_Conti @montalk Well, I don't think I'm gonna stay away from Gab forever but for now I'll continue to peek my head in here and there just to see what you two and AJ are up to. Especially once you two start publishing your new podcast.
I think that when the time is right, I'll come back and be more active here. Maybe sooner than later, who knows.
Btw, this is really frigin random but a few weeks ago, just out of dumb curiosity, I went to a horoscope site just to see how different signs would be or not compatible with mine, Capricorn. According to the website Taurus is one of the most compatible to my sign out of the whole frigin zodiac. So Tom is my match! I just found it hilarious.
Carissa Conti
@guanajo @montalk Well yeah, the way astrology is supposed to work, by the books, is that signs of each element get on best with the fellow signs of their own element. So Capricorn, Taurus and Virgo are all (feminine) Earth signs, and therefore are supposed to be the most compatible with each other. Secondary compatibility for Earth signs are the (feminine) water signs of Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces. Then the (masculine) air signs and (masculine) fire signs are going to be the ones that are most compatible with each other. However IMO there is too much emphasis placed on "sun signs" in astrology, without taking into account one's moon sign placement and the rest of the chart. And also things like our numerological life path number and Chinese (year of the whatever animal) astrology. I have an astrological write up in the works that's the more comprehensive version of the one that I posted here on Gab months back. Should be going up shortly. It gets into all this, but in a fun and entertaining (and politically incorrect but honest) way, while ultimately getting into that one big question...."What Is This Place Really??" The focus of the write up is the idea that we're clearly being stamped with these artificial personalities that are completely pinpoint-able, like there's no denying it's a real thing, but it's clearly not about the constellations. So...where is it coming from? And why and how and by who? So yeah, should be going up soon.
Space Cadet
@guanajo @Carissa_Conti @montalk yes, gab had been quiet for awhile. I haven’t been very chatty for weeks either. Maybe a change in tides is coming that will spark more good topics. News and the woo has been pretty uneventful. And of course, we are in the pull of the full moon. Looking forward to more astrology posts.
Inspire369
@montalk interesting. Just thinking about mental illness like schizophrenia ,I wonder if it is caused by some kind of malfunction in the link between the originating consciousness and here.
Montalk
@Captain_DA Seems like a synchronization and tuning problem in some cases, but schizophrenia is a syndrome as many causes and symptoms are lumped under that term. Some is genuinely biological, some is just entities jacking in and inducing voices/visuals/feelings, some just paranoid thought patterns that become self-reinforcing and run out of control, and some is psychic ability opening a person up to "sideband" realities. It's the opposite of being an anchored and properly programmed NPC.
2oVo5
It was a central facet of modern society for several decades. Disneyland simulates a child's life of leisure and sense of freshness with life; a Disney princess is like a teenage girl who needs to get everything she wants out of life. Actors simulate the lives of people they have never met. Occult seership often simulates the physical world (landforms, plants, and architecture), and that simulates a vip section of a club filled with douchebags that think they're better than you. A strong and comprehensive enough thoughtform that simulates the world can impose its will on (perhaps hijack another simulation) it fairly effectively, that is what is done by every academic institution. However, simulations can compete just how YouTube overshadowed movies, opening up the opportunity to choose proper simulations and reject flawed ones.
Space Cadet
The simulation idea has been on my mind a lot lately. I’ll share a bit about a wild experience I had (like in a simulation) while I was experiencing/sensing negative astral “stuff.” I felt like a player in a game, and when in certain public places, it felt like time changed - slowed down and there was more reality between the “frames” of linear time and space. When within certain boundaries/locations, 4D controllers/characters could bend things, mess around and feed off of us just like in stranger things (upside down world). When a player in the game goes active (negs influence them/or they become aware of this bending[the game]), the player’s mind aids in creating this underworld reality through their fears (paranoid thoughts etc.) and actions/lack of action. The mind would be the center/local space that seeds and sprouts the reality of the wider world (between the frames).
So, in this sense, we’d all be players in a giant simulation game that’s controlled by 4D beings, and it all being about loosh of course. This is what we’ve all been talking about all these years, but the point being, the high majority has no clue how this world works, and it makes you wonder, like others here are saying, how much within our lives, in the 3D world is even real? What IS real? Is it all like a moving picture and we are advanced 3D holograms, our souls moving around in these bodies like wandering spirits stuck in a 4D projected (programmed) 3D prison?Does this mean our lives have less value than we thought? Or are our lives the ultimate test/space where our “work” here is the value that’s carried from one life to the next, the lessons and experiences we take are what connects us to our soul while within the matrix, our soul, hearts, and minds being what transcends the prison.
The “using our minds” as a prison, which Carissa mentioned, might not be far off from the mind controlled borg future that many have warned us about. Another thing I was shown was that our minds can be used as a dome screen (maybe in the future), where the controllers may project whatever they please directly into our heads, broadcasting things like introductions to their world/game as an example. I was pulled into visions where I was shown how neg. beings torture and feed off us (in great detail), like “hey, this is our world, this is what we do to you, so get ready for the game!” This type of "broadcast" could be used to terrify the public as disclosure is rolled out, creating the good cop/bad cop scenario, causing chaos, and people would go crazy. It could also be a way to broadcast the”truth” (I say that loosely), showing people the terrible reality of what has been hidden from us, like the Q phrase: some people cannot be told the truth, they must be shown, and the broadcast could be tailored to each individual, based on their specific role and what they can handle.
I call this the Event Horizon, a global broadcast direct to our minds, maybe a collective projected dream, which I’ve heard some mention could happen (where mult. people wake from the same dream/projection). Imagine the possibilities of all they could do once they can broadcast directly to our minds. Jabs (nano tech/hydra) aiding the process of controlling the collective slave race. Abductees are already equipped with implants, mind control etc. Will there come a time where many will “activate?” Who will be strong enough to maintain control of their soul if/when there is a takeover, and will neg. influences just slip in and take people over, creating a live game of chaos and madness? They can then pull the whole "order from chaos," come in and "save us" or offer/take control of the madness.
Or how about those 3D humans with 4D bodies/copies (our 4D selves) etc.? As the veil lifts, some may begin to sense what’s going on on the other side. Like, take this technology from Sourin’, for example: A human body suspended in front of a giant screen, made to see, hear, and even smell and feel (wind, temperature) the simulated environment. Flip the technology/invert it…. A 3D player could begin to pick up on his/her 4D self being put through a mind control/torture simulation using the same technology, showing anything from end of days scenarios, made to watch and even experience the torture they are seeing (add electric/sensation probes). Just take this video and invert it - upside down world. A 3D human “waking up” could experience bleed throughs of their 4D experiences and feel things like mild sensations/electric shock and see the visions of the 4D simulation directly to their mind, the 3D human experiencing a toned down version of their 4D player’s experience. Our 3D actions/thoughts could affect our 4D experience and vice versa, the 2 worlds begin to merge, a symbiotic relationship within the 3D/4D game. Cause and effect. If we behave/do what they want, the torture/simulation stops. If we mess up, the 4D torture/3Dsensations continue. Kinda scary to think about.
https://youtu.be/urJctz0C71I
An insider's look at Epcot's Soarin' Around the World
Montalk 8-1-23
I think our consciousness is plugged into a cosmic Mind, Soul, or Thoughtform that generates this collective experience. Part of it is programmed as a virtual physics engine that runs at the speed of light to simulate space, time, matter and energy. The illusion is solid but imperfect.
In lucid dreams, you can use intent to change the dream. But it takes time for changes to manifest. Yet, dream physics reacts instantly. Push something and it starts moving. In dreams, the subconscious responds to both direct action and intention... one instantly, the other with a delay. The physics engine in our dreams is created by the subconscious per its programmed expectations.
Same could be true in our waking world. Physics reacts at the speed of light, while intention takes a bit longer to manifest. To override physics, one must control the programming that generates it, which is etheric energy.
In a way, the etheric plane must be the physics engine then. If you have mastery over etheric energy, you can bend the laws of physics and accomplish magickal changes to matter and energy (like instant healing of wounds). But you're still operating within the simulation.
Meanwhile, the astral plane is associated with soul, emotion, subconscious, symbolism, afterlife, and nonlinear time. Astral might be the field of the cosmic Mind. No wonder, then, that to reality create you have to go within and evoke emotions and visuals and reconfigure your soul astral energy patterns. You're changing the part of you that's connected to the cosmic Mind, thereby changing it and thus your "dreamscape" after some time delay.
Manifesting (Law of Attraction) works via this astral cosmic Mind field, while tricks like bending spoons and phasing through solid walls (ET tech) uses etheric field control.
Montalk 8-3-23
New podcast interview (55 minutes):
"Beyond the Matrix: Part one of our interview with Tom/Montalk on the matrix, aliens, gnosticism, TargetedIndividuals, conspiracy, and much more. Part 2 is available now for Basement VIPs, next week for everyone else."
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